Wow, The Independent???!!
MM approves.
hi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
Wow, The Independent???!!
MM approves.
following the recent activity surrounding the "mentally diseased" apostate article, a major uk newspaper has expressed an interest in covering the story.
the correspondent as been told about this forum, and he is particularly interested in hearing from those inside the organisation, as i think few people are aware of how much unrest there is actually within witness ranks at the teachings of the society.. would anybody like to be used as a source, either anonymously or otherwise?
if so, it might be worthwhile saying a few words on this thread.
BTTT - cedars any further word on this?
sorry if this has been asked before but i would love to know the current ratio on this forum.. i'm a believer/christian former jw for 45 years... born in .
what are you now and what were you?.
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Agnostic inactive meeting attender here.
Did you hear the one about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac?
He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.
jonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
That is very chilling! Culling in the sense of ''Jehovah'' doing it or taking it upon themselves to rid the earth of apostates??
It was described as something Jehovah would do; it was discussed on this thread:
jonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
BTW, they just killed all the inactive and apostates at this summers DC. If you are not an active jws, you are dead to them.
That's no joke, reference was made to a 'culling work to come'.
jonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
I wasn't aware that we were presupposing that the borg would spring this without warning. Let me ask you this, if Jones had not conditioned his followers with practice sessions, do you think he would have been as successful in convincing his followers to go to their deaths? I don't.
If someone were to get on the platform and demand people kill themselves, of course people would question it. But if they were conditioned to obey without question even if they don't understand what is asked of them like Abraham (hint - they have already been told this) and then if some scripture was twisted to support an act of suicide as Jehovah's will then yes, some would comply.
jonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
They are physically free to walk away--physically free to turn on their computers. They have time alone.
Which means that the average JW needs to have a more developed self regulation system than a cult member in a closed off community. Jones isn't in the pavilion, he's in your head!
jonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
As we get nearer to the outbreak of the great tribulation, we may well receive some detailed instructions. Our safe journey through those troublesome days will depend on our keeping in step with other loyal servants of Jehovah.
This is a direct quote from the Watchtower. It was discussed in this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/152151/1/Alarming-statement-in-todays-study-article-in-WT
I don't think it's ambiguous. Your life depends on you obeying us without question.
Would JWs obey? Most, yes.
jonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
Are you saying the people in Jonestown wanted to die NewChapter?
I don't think so.
jonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
Todays witness barely has a grip on what they believe.
Exactly. What they believe is not important and they know that. The most important thing is to obey.
Obey and refuse a blood transfusion risking their life. They don't know why they would accept one thing and reject another. They just know it's imperative that they O B E Y.